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Top 10 List of Watchtower Satanic Quoting:

When a Jehovah’s Witness reads this top ten list, they either conclude the Watchtower organization engages is satanic quoting practices, or become dishonest themselves! This list is so powerful and irrefutable, that Jehovah's Witnesses have no idea how to deal with it! Their usual response is to quietly withdraw back into the shadows of anonymity from which they came.

The Top 10 List: "Worst of the worst" of Watchtower satanic quoting in their booklet: "Should you believe in the Trinity?". This Satanic little booklet is used by Jehovah’s Witnesses to deceive the public into thinking that Trinity is a pagan doctrine. The booklet quotes close to 100 sources in total. We have included here a small sampling of their quotes.

  1. First, we have included Watchtower quotes from 8 unbelieving Christianity Trashers to prove trinity is pagan, who don't even believe the Bible! Had the Watchtower told you that these eight men also said that the entirety of Christianity was of pagan origin, we would withdraw our criticism! But the Watchtower makes it appear that these are eight men reject Trinity as pagan false doctrine, but believe the rest of the Bible doctrines as true. It is actually quite shocking, so fasten your seatbelt and make sure you are sitting down!
  2. We have also included two examples of how the Watchtower deliberately misquotes Bible believing Trinitarians and makes them say stuff that is opposite to what they intended

We strongly recommend you read the "Hostile witness approach" misused by the Watchtower as proof of satanic quoting practices.

The Top 10 List: #1

Bulletin of The John Rylands Library
The author is a Christianity Trasher!

“the fact has to be faced that New Testament research ... has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus ... certainly never believed himself to be God."

In one of the most incredibly satanic examples of deceptive quoting, look what they left out with their ellipses (...) in the same continuous sentence in red below:

"the fact has to be faced that New Testament research over, say, the last thirty or forty years has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus himself may not have claimed any of the Christological titles which the Gospels ascribe to him, not even the functional designation 'Christ', and certainly never believed himself to be God."

So these "scholars" not only reject that Jesus claimed to be God, but that he also never claimed to be the messiah! We simply cannot understand why the Watchtower loves quoting these Christianity Trashers!

 

The Top 10 List: #2

E. Washburn Hopkins: Origin and Evolution of Religion
Hopkins is a Christianity Trasher

"To Jesus and Paul the doctrine of the trinity was apparently unknown; . . . they say nothing about it."

Look at the rest of the sentence: "The beginning of the doctrine of the Trinity appears already in John " (c. 100). To Jesus and Paul the doctrine of the trinity was apparently unknown"

So while Hopkins believes Jesus and Paul rejected trinity, he says one sentence before, that the Gospel of John clearly teaches it! Of course Hopkins is another flaming Christianity Trasher who also said: "Finally, the life, temptation, miracles, parables, and even the disciples of Jesus have been derived directly from Buddhism." So Hopkins thinks that Trinity AND most of the Watchtower doctrines were derived from Buddhism! Wow! A very convincing proof indeed!

The Top 10 List: #3

Siegfried Morenz: Egyptian Religion
Morenz is a Christianity Trasher!

"trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians. ... three gods are combined and treated as a single being, addressed in the singular. In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with Christian theology"

Look at the sentence in red below that they left out. In a most perplexing paradox, Morenz, who doesn’t believe the Bible, actually says the Bible teaches trinity. He is not saying Trinity is of pagan origin, but the entire Bible itself!

"trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians. ... three gods are combined and treated as a single being, addressed in the singular. In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with Christian theology. In order to avoid any gross misunderstanding, we must at once emphasize that the substance of the Christian Trinity is of course Biblical: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The three are mentioned alongside one another in the New Testament, probably for liturgical reasons."

Morenz, is a Christianity Trasher! Not only does he say trinity is pagan, but notice that he also says that the expressions, 'second death' in the Revelation [chapter 20:14] 'crown of life' [James 1:12], 'crown of righteousness' were borrowed from the pagans! Having said this, Morenz actually says that the Bible clearly teaches the trinity! He doesn't Believe the Bible, thinks the Bible itself is of pagan origin, but that the Bible teaches trinity! What utter satanic deception the watchtower uses!

The Top 10 List: #4

Will Durant: The Story of Civilization
Durant is a Christianity Trasher!

"Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. . . . From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity."

Look at the full sentence in red below that they left out.

"Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it ... From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity, the Last Judgment, and ... reward and punishment" So not only is trinity pagan, but also judgement day! Durant actually accuses the apostles of borrowing their doctrine from Paganism in the same sentence!

The Top 10 List: #5

Arthur Weigall: The Paganism in Our Christianity.
Weigall is a Christianity Trasher!

“The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan."

We call Weigall, the Watchtower's "star witness" in the case to prove trinity is pagan. He is used in the introduction and twice more in the booklet. Yet, Weigall trashes all of Christianity and also says that the Lord's Supper, Baptism and the virgin birth and trinity are all of pagan origin!

The Top 10 List: #6

Lyman Abbott: Dictionary of Religious Knowledge
Abbot is a Christianity Trasher!

Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith."

It is dishonest for the Watchtower to not tell you the author also trashes all church organization, baptism, the Lord’s supper and the doctrine of blood atonement, and trinity in the same breath!

The Top 10 List: #7

Edward Gibbon: History of Christianity
Gibbon is a Christianity Trasher!

“If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity."

What Gibbon is saying, is that the Bible itself was of pagan origin, not just 4th century Trinitarian doctrine! "Gibbon was an infidel, and his unbelief lurks in every page of his work where Christianity is nearly or remotely touched upon. His skepticism leads him into manifold displays of unfairness and even into inaccuracies."

The Top 10 List: #8

Adolf Harnack: Outlines of the History of Dogma
Harnack is a Christianity Trasher!

"By the end of the third century C.E. ... church doctrine became "firmly rooted in the soil of Hellenism [ie. pagan doctrine]

Here is what Harnack said a few sentences before: "The Christian religion in the 3rd century made no compromise with any of the pagan religions" But Harnack is a Christianity Trasher. "Harnack started with anti-Christian and anti-supernaturalistic presuppositions . . . Harnack's methods and assumptions forced him to reject major doctrines of Christianity such as the Virgin birth, the deity and pre-existence of Jesus, the Resurrection of the body, the possibility of miracles, the existence of demons, exorcism and Jesus as the promised Messiah."

Harnack says that the church up to the 3rd century, was NOT AFFECTED by paganism. This the Watchtower did not want you to see, because it contradicts what they believe! So here is an example of the Watchtower twisting even what a Christianity Trasher says!

The Top 10 List: #9

Edmund Fortman: The Triune God
Fortman is a Bible believing Trinitarian

"There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead."

The Watchtower deliberately fails to tell you that Fortman's comment is specifically directed at only Old Testament writers to the exclusion of New Testament writers. The Watchtower makes it sound like Fortman is making a comment on the entire Bible!

The Top 10 List: #10

James Hastings: Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics
Hastings is a Bible believing Trinitarian

"At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian"

Look at the complete sentence!

At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian in the a strictly ontological reference.

The watchtower makes it sound like Hastings rejects trinity and agrees with the JW's when all he is really saying is in strict ontological terms. This is a huge deception! All Trinitarians would agree with Hastings. Hastings is discussing "Economic vs ontological trinity". (JW's have never even heard about this, much less understand it! Click here to learn more.)


Hostile Witness Approach"

Satanic Quoting practices exposed!

"Hostile witness approach" misused by the Watchtower in:
"Should You Believe in the Trinity"(Watchtower booklet)
A quick short summary! Top Ten List: "Worst of the worst" of satanic quoting in the booklet! When a Jehovah’s Witness reads our top ten list, they either conclude the Watchtower organization engages is satanic quoting practices, or become dishonest themselves!

 

I. Understanding the Hostile Witness approach to powerful and effective quoting:

Creationists are hammering Evolutionists!

Evolutionists hate it when one of their own admits some element of evolution theology is flat wrong. Creationists will quote this guy with glee, because a fellow evolutionist had admitted a problem with evolution theology!

Dr. Don Patton Ph.D. is both a master and a pioneer in using the "hostile witness" approach to debunk evolution theology that we all came from a blob in the sea over millions of years.

Jehovah’s Witnesses, have recognized the power of the "hostile witness" approach to debunking Trinitarian theology. They published a booklet called, "Should you believe in the Trinity" which is a collection of almost 100 different quotes from Trinitarians who seem to come right out and admit that Trinity doctrine was borrowed from the pagans and is false doctrine contrary to the Bible.

While Dr. Don Patton Ph.D. has a flawless record for accurately quoting evolutionists in proper context without misrepresenting them, Jehovah’s Witnesses use of the "hostile witness" approach amounts to satanic deception. Here is why.

Dr. Don Patton Ph.D. comes right out and tells his audiences, "This quote comes from a staunch believer in evolution. He is not a creationist and he doesn’t believe in creation. Yet notice he admits one aspect of evolution theology is invalid." The power of this approach is that Dr. Patton is quoting one of their own to refute them.

II. Jehovah's Witnesses misuse the "Hostile Witness Approach":

Jehovah's Witnesses quote about 10 different authors who come right out and say something like: "The origin of Trinity doctrine is entirely pagan." Sounds real powerful, especially since the one who made the quote is a Bible believing, born again, weekly church attending TRINITYARIAN. Or at least that is how they like to make it appear.

Here is the Satanic deception: EVERY SINGLE ONE of the men they quote who say Trinity is a pagan borrowed doctrine, are themselves anti-Christian, Bible trashing, liberal, modernist agnostics and atheists!

This is not the hostile witness at all! A hostile witness means that a fellow Trinitarian admits Trinity was borrowed from the Pagans. Had they been honest and said: "The scholar that says "Trinity is pagan", is not a Trinitarian. In fact he doesn’t even believe the Bible and doesn’t even believe in God... In fact in the very next sentence he says, "Not only is Trinity a pagan doctrine. but even Jesus borrowed all his parables directly from Buddhism." Jehovah's Witnesses make it appear the quote, comes from a "Good bible believing Christian scholar", but it in fact comes from a Bible trasher.

(Here is the Top Ten List of the worst of the worst of satanic quoting by Jehovah’s Witnesses.)

Had they told you that the quote, in the same sentence trashes not only Trinity but also the parables of Jesus as being borrowed directly from Platonism, the reader would rightly burn the "Should you believe in the Trinity" as the garbage it really is.

Only through deliberately misleading the reader, can the Watchtower expect to with any converts to their "Trinity is pagan" tribe.

Again, not one of the authors who say trinity is borrowed from the pagans are Trinitarians. Every such quote in the "Should you believe in the Trinity" booklet are from faithless, Agnostic Bible trashing liberal modernists.

Conclusion:

So both Dr. Don Patton (creationist) and Jehovah's Witnesses engage in the "hostile witness" approach, but only Dr. Patton is honest, because he tells you the quote comes from an evolutionist, not a creationist. JW's on the other hand, make you think the quote comes from a bible believing Trinitarian, when in fact the author is a Bible trasher!

Evolution vs. Creation debate:

Origins debate: Correct "hostile witness" approach: Dr. Patton quoting an evolutionist to refute evolution.

Origins debate: Deceptive quoting approach: If Dr. Patton quotes a creationist to refute evolution, but allows the audience to believe the author was an evolutionist.

Trinity Debate:

Trinity debate: Correct "hostile witness" approach: Jehovah’s Witnesses quote Trinitarians who say Trinity is pagan origin.

Trinity debate: Satanic quoting approach: Quote from someone who not only believes trinity is borrowed form the pagans, but the whole of Christianity as well, but allowing the reader to think the author is a Bible believing, church attending, born again Trinitarian, who is honest enough to admit trinity is pagan.

This is satanic deception at its worst!

Jehovah’s Witnesses need to find someone other than Bible hating liberal modernist atheists who will say trinity is a doctrine borrowed from the pagans. Let them find even one true Trinitarian who would dare say such!